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Aug 17, 2007



I raised the issue of trading cards on my blog as well, and a developer for the feature confirmed that the FAQ is right. You can trade cards, but you can't trade redeemed rewards.

Trading is an integral part of these types of games, but is there a way to curb online auction sales of the cards?

Not if they want to be taken seriously as a collectable card game. Games like Magic the Gathering demand that a player be able to get key deck components to make a 'deck engine' that works. If a player couldn't trade for or buy selected cards necessary to compete, that entire play style is negated.

The ONLY way to stop RMT, truly, is to remove all value and utility from in-game digital objects. Of course, if your items have no value and no utility, this probably means that your game design sucks.


Great analysis Rory.

I got the impression from "unredeemed" that maybe you don't know what it is until you redeem it? If not, then it seems a bit nonsensical to even make the distinction.

It's strange that I had never really considered the parallel between RMT of characters and that of the trading of traditional TCG cards (Black Lotus plz!). It works so well. This serves as either a great argument for proponents of character RMT overall, or nice leverage for Sony to keep RMT out of their card-game, a medium which traditionally supports it.


I am excited about the possibility that people will gather in taverns to do stuff.


Bazaar: MyTrader SHOUTS, "Who needs a tavern?!"


I take it this is different from the PS3 Eye Toy augmented reality eye of destruction
As edge magazine pointed out this AR version of a card trading game suffers from the card photocopying, though that misses the point that collectors like to collect.
That as an aside, attempts at control and restriction, just like region lockout on game titles seems very, well, feudal.


I've always expected that MMORPGs would start to implement larger and more 'serious' "mini"games into their virtual worlds and I think Sony is on the right way here by adding their TCG into the EverQuest series - I'm sure it will work out just fine.

I'm less positive about the trading restrictions they want to stick on their TCG cards (under the defence that it leads to RMT). As you already point out, a significant loophole already exists in the UNREDEEMABLE cards anyway, which will be used for RMT instead then.

And besides that, Sony can't even use its "to prevent RMTing" arguement on the EQ2 Exchange-Enabled servers that actually allow it through their Station Exchange.


See also Combat Cards, a user created trading card game that has been played in Second Life since early 2006 (video here).


Doesn't Final Fantasy XI have an in-game collectible card game?


Yes, euphrosyne, FFXI does come with a card game called Tetra Master, but as far as I know it is not played within FFXI itself. It is part of the PlayOnline service.


Playing in-game games isn't a completely new idea. Asheron's Call had some giant size chessboards in the countryside; you could play on them with another player. AC2 had in-game collectible cards (with a stunning resemblance to Tarot cards) that you could collect and trade (and possibly turn in for stuff--I don't know the details because I didn't play that one past beta and a later demo?). And of course SL had casinos, although you didn't play against other people. Re Edward Castronova's comment: yes, perhaps the way to create social centers is to require that you be in a tavern to play, possibly face to face with your opponent. If there's a ladder, it might be required that you travel to meet and play with them. Despite the fact that that isn't necessary, it might be interesting.


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